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       The redwings will fix the Tiger problem until late may * - sn0cap2k4 4/6 11:44 AM (show all)  Views 31925
       Use TigerDroppings.com as a great example.... - FL_Blue 4/6 11:43 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - dat_man 4/6 11:42 AM
              People whine too much one way or another - OHIOBLUES 4/6 11:49 AM
       One Tigers thread per game. Delete others. Warn posters who don't abide* - JWuGP23 4/6 11:39 AM
       We can't chat about Auburn any longer????? Or LSU? - speedboys 4/6 11:38 AM
       Allow one thread per game, and erase the rest. - jizzard19 4/6 11:37 AM
       Simple: Create a new board* - PurpleArgyle 4/6 11:32 AM
       Ban all MLB threads outright. That will instantly class up the board.* - The Mighty Wolverine 4/6 11:31 AM
              and the NBA, NFL, WNBA, NHL, MLS, OT and where does it stop? - speedboys 4/6 11:48 AM
       my 2 cents... - mngmikes 4/6 11:31 AM
       "scroll past the Tigers threads" does not work... - M_Powered 4/6 11:30 AM
The best solution to Tigers threads? - MichaelSpath 4/6 10:31 AM
       Make a Tigers Board or MLB baseball board. - j0hnny_22 4/6 11:29 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - adamgluck 4/6 11:27 AM
       Pin an Inge thread to the top* - nicolashill 4/6 11:26 AM
       Billy Chapel's wife said it best: "is this not America?" - simmygoblue 4/6 11:23 AM
              Simmy - you always bring the goods. Great reference* - andrewhfine 4/6 11:39 AM
       Not a tigers fan - h2owolverine 4/6 11:23 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - timthumb 4/6 11:23 AM
       Why don't we at least try the idea of a separate tigers board?* - TDFever 4/6 11:23 AM
       Beat ohio.* - MichiganMan1 4/6 11:21 AM
       Convert all the whiners and inconvenienced nancies into Tigers fans? - Blue Skywalker1 4/6 11:20 AM
       not a big deal...we can just scroll past subjects that... - madmartin 4/6 11:17 AM
              Re: not a big deal...we can just scroll past subjects that... - bradibbs 4/6 11:27 AM
              You chase MICHIGAN fans off by catering to tigers fans. - TDFever 4/6 11:21 AM
                     Or not. - Brockman26 4/6 11:28 AM
       Mike, I understand both sides. - drbajwa 4/6 11:14 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - AirBlue23 4/6 11:09 AM
       Default the website to topic view, and pin a tigers topic* - SD MichiganFan 4/6 11:07 AM
       Just leave it as it is - OrionWolverine 4/6 11:07 AM
       Everyone's saying start a Tigers in-game thread and that's a great idea but - HokeyWolverine 4/6 11:07 AM
       I think this is the objective solution - bradibbs 4/6 11:04 AM
       Official game day tiger's thread - CH99 4/6 11:04 AM
       Switch the board to topic view, much easier to move past... - Mich Fan 4/6 11:03 AM
       It's as simple as.... - O_How_I_Hate 4/6 11:03 AM
       Delete redundant threads. - jlite 4/6 11:02 AM
       The best solution to Tigers threads? Here goes.... - Victor Valiant 4/6 11:02 AM
       Do nothing or just make the whole forum topic view only - blueconundrum 4/6 11:02 AM
       (M_Partial) My suggestion is to bar, and immediately delete.... - Shorty06 4/6 11:01 AM
              And ban Tigers posters who complain about ANY OT post. ** - Cincinnati_Wolverine 4/6 11:26 AM
              This is BY FAR the best idea I have heard....and it would work* - mark1234 4/6 11:17 AM
                     It's by far the WORST idea I've ever heard.... - TDFever 4/6 11:20 AM
                            There seem to be just as many threads from people whining about the Tigers - mark1234 4/6 11:21 AM
                                   First of all, no, that is not even close to being accurate... - TDFever 4/6 11:25 AM
                                          It is a cue - a cue that some people need to relax and figure out how to - mark1234 4/6 11:27 AM
                                                 Re: It is a cue - a cue that some people need to relax and figure out how to - timthumb 4/6 11:32 AM
                                                        So, again, the solution is "give me my way or leave if you don't like it"?* - TDFever 4/6 11:33 AM
                                                 Why don't you ignore their "whining" instead of letting it affect you? - TDFever 4/6 11:31 AM
              Amen to that* - OrionWolverine 4/6 11:16 AM
              I approve this resolution.* - blueconundrum 4/6 11:11 AM
       A separate board for Detroit professional sports* - Felix 4/6 10:59 AM
              Isn't this essentially the "quit whining" response of the other side? - Chris Calloway 4/6 11:09 AM
                     No, it's not. This board is set up to... - TDFever 4/6 11:17 AM
              It's a great idea. The only problem is that.... - TDFever 4/6 11:09 AM
              Agreed* - backroom 4/6 11:02 AM
              Good idea - the Olympic Sports board should become the MLB board* - Chicago_Blue 4/6 11:00 AM
       I'd always advocate a hands-off policy* - Chicago_Blue 4/6 10:59 AM
       Re: a link to the LSU board?* - Big_Houseman 4/6 10:57 AM
       Start a Tigers only thread about 5 hours before gametime. - jmgoblue 4/6 10:57 AM
       Can I get one for the Brooklyn Dodgers? - vawolv 4/6 10:54 AM
       maybe just a general "suggestion" from the Mods... - northernmichigan 4/6 10:54 AM
       Is to move on - Seabreeze 4/6 10:52 AM
       What about an OT Fort Forum... - cdycus 4/6 10:49 AM
       I could care less about the Tigers.... - greenemarine 4/6 10:49 AM
              How much less could you care? :)* - toriousafp 4/6 10:52 AM
                     Lol - greenemarine 4/6 11:12 AM
       Official in game thread . . . - myers15 4/6 10:47 AM
              Agree. Same for Red Wings, etc. threads. I don't live in Detroit and - Cal Varnsen 4/6 10:57 AM
                     Yep, the mods at one time were combining posts on similar topics ... - ElysiumsGuitar 4/6 11:35 AM
       Switching the forum to topic view - BlimpyBlue 4/6 10:44 AM
       Have an official Tigers thread for posters to use. ** - BursleyBlue75 4/6 10:44 AM
       Official Tigers thread* - Geos 4/6 10:42 AM
              Re: Pin an official thread a couple of hours before the game. That way, - bama blue 4/6 10:58 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - Buck_Wolverine 4/6 10:42 AM
       During and immediately following games, delete any new Tigers posts... - Chris Calloway 4/6 10:42 AM
       Open the chat room & delete any thread about it on the board - jkarl 4/6 10:41 AM
       I'm a Mets fan, couldn't care less about the Tigers, but... - WolveriNut 4/6 10:40 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - Kevin13 4/6 10:39 AM
       Flog the poster who starts the thread. If that doesn't work, leave the - TWheatly 4/6 10:38 AM
       I don't see why this is an issue, ESPECIALLY because there is a dearth of - Aero_Blue 4/6 10:38 AM
       Fact is, it's baseball season and there isn't much Michigan - marktine 4/6 10:37 AM
       Tell the People that don't like to see Tigers threads to not get on during - michiganfan8676 4/6 10:37 AM
              That defeats the purpose of the board and if you are coming in - speedboys 4/6 10:49 AM
                     I was Kidding - michiganfan8676 4/6 11:01 AM
              Yeah, Rivals' advertisers would love that one: "Please don't frequent the - WolveriNut 4/6 10:41 AM
       There are more threads about Tigers threads than actual Tigers threads* - umkevin 4/6 10:37 AM
       Re: The best solution to Tigers threads? - MICHIGAN4 4/6 10:36 AM
       Everything but football in moderation :) Act wisely. - mlars027 4/6 10:36 AM
       Either... - 97Rose 4/6 10:35 AM
              Re: Either... - Gulo gulo 4/6 10:37 AM
       the best solution is for people to stop whining, - Trouten25 4/6 10:35 AM
              way to see it from both sides** - M_Powered 4/6 11:27 AM
              Well, that's not going to happen. Got any other ideas... - TDFever 4/6 11:10 AM
                     dude, you are crying bout this way too much - toriousafp 4/6 11:41 AM
                     There's plenty of people on this thread that don't like the Tigers but have - mark1234 4/6 11:14 AM
                            Then why is Spath asking for solutions for this not big deal? - TDFever 4/6 11:19 AM
                                   Because the few of those doing all the whinning refuse to give up... - UofM_Boxer 4/6 7:29 PM
              Agree.....just deal with it* - jasonkerwin 4/6 11:08 AM
              Agree. Don't like Tigers talk, breeze on past the threads* - Dave Baxter 4/6 10:59 AM
              EXACTLY. I don't care about them so I just don't read them* - UofM_Boxer 4/6 10:53 AM
              What he said* - toriousafp 4/6 10:50 AM
              Agree - ernied 4/6 10:45 AM
                     u hating on my pop thread ernied!?! - Trouten25 4/6 10:50 AM
              +1 - michiganfan8676 4/6 10:38 AM
              agree* - MICHIGAN4 4/6 10:37 AM
              +1 how hard is it to go through and just read the threads you want* - rsmith6 4/6 10:37 AM
                     on any big tigers game u figure theres two pages of mixed - Trouten25 4/6 10:41 AM
              Agree* - mark1234 4/6 10:36 AM

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4/6 11:21 AM | IP: Logged
Or create a new Detroit Sports forum where we can discuss all things Lions, Tigers, and Wings. The Pistons are an abomination right now so I doubt anyone wants to chat about the awesome of Stuckey and Charlie V.
4/6 11:20 AM | IP: Logged
we don't care to read about. Understand your logic regarding the customer point of view - I wouldn't chase anyone off either.
4/6 11:17 AM | IP: Logged
You really do. This board ceases to be a Michigan board in the spring and people just stop coming here to hear about Inge's cannon.
4/6 11:21 AM | IP: Logged
Having lived in Ann Arbor for five years I always like to hear about the Tigers, but being an "outsider" now that I live in Lincoln, Ne there is always more hunger for Michigan news. Stopping Tigers threads will only make the board slower because and not necassarily add more Michigan discussion because at times there is nothing else to talk about and yet I sometimes complain about Tigers threads
4/6 11:14 AM | IP: Logged
Following the bar analogy, you would certainly prevent annoying patrons from approaching other patrons tables and cramming loud obnoxious discourse on things better served in another bar or at least in another section with other village loons.
My $0.02 is we enforce the rules of the fort that states that all discourse is regarding Michigan athletics and recruting in The Fort and have a "Wolverine Town Hall" or soemthing of that nature for all the other BS. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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4/6 11:07 AM | IP: Logged
If for 3 hours out of the day people want to talk about the Detroit Tigers what is the big deal?

If someone can come up with a compelling reason why something should be done about "all the Tigers threads", then we should do something. Until then it's just pointless whining.
4/6 11:07 AM | IP: Logged
we're still going to discuss the Tigers outside of Tigers games. I think it would be ridiculous to only allow us to discuss the Tigers when a game is on. Also, not many people will even be discussing the Tigers that often during games, I think, once the season gets going. The only reason the board was like it was yesterday is because it was opening day.
4/6 11:07 AM | IP: Logged
I think I fall right on the median of Tigers interest. I am a Twins fan (the first step is admitting it), so I am only partly interested in the Tigers because they are division rivals. I'm about half way between the diehards and the people who think that the threads are a giant pain. However, having lived in Michigan for undergrad, I can appreciate the fans new excitement about fielding a winner. This is a sports message board with roots in Michigan. Detroit Tigers baseball is a part of that, whether people like it or not.

Do I think the Tigers threads are annoying? Yes. Do I really mind it? No. This is a message board fergodsake. If you don't like the content of the thread, it is literally a 2 second mouse click/scroll. Or, switch to topic view.

To the people being inconvenienced: Come on, is it that big of a deal? You're just going to waste the mods' time on a Monday when you could just click through.

Spath, you don't have to change the board, it's quite easy to navigate.
4/6 11:04 AM | IP: Logged
Just have someone (mod or a regular poster) post it near the 1st pitch.

Much like Chris did with BBall threads. If it gets too long, someone can start a new one.
4/6 11:04 AM | IP: Logged
the discussions you don't care about. All you have to do is teach people to use the qoute button, and it's easier for anyone to see who you are responding to.

I would encourage a single game thread, as it were, if we're supposed to limit our bball comments to one game thread, then other games should be treated the same way. That said, People who complain about that stuff just end up causing as much clutter as the people they're complaining about, IMO. But, as a topic viewer, I couldn't care less, it's just one line on the page as far as I'm concerned, I can click on it if I want to read their complaints, or Tiger game comments, or move past it to something I care about.
4/6 11:03 AM | IP: Logged
ASK the members to please keep the Tigers topics to a minimum and/or try to keep it to one thread a page. Also, can make a rule such as, no substance-less posts such as:

"Verlander is filthy*"
"Inge needs to be cut*"
"I see you Boesch*"
"WOW*"

Posts that include meaningful links or information such as major injuries, positions switches, call ups, etc should be tolerated.

I do think that asking the members to cut it down will work...may need a few reminders throughout the summer.
4/6 11:03 AM | IP: Logged
I have no problem with tigers/red wings threads. I do see the same problems with them that happens during football games. 10+ people posting the exact same thing in the subject line. 10 people saying nice hit Cabrera, takes up the same amount of room as nice run denard!

Delete the extras. If that can be done, delete the threads calling for threads to be deleted.
4/6 11:02 AM | IP: Logged
First, there is no good solution. So many Michigan fans are Tiger fans that they want to vent, and feel they are free to do so. On the other hand, many Michigan fans are not Tiger fans and find all the threads here an annoying distraction and side-show. Any "solution" is going to irritate someone.

The way I see it, just one opinion, is that this is a Michigan Wolverine's board, and everyone who signs up and pays is doing so to follow and discuss the University of Michigan. That is the implicit contract for signing up. It would seem a reasonable conclusion that those who want to discuss the Tigers' every inning find a Tigers venue somewhere, and sign up to converse with others interested in that team.

As a Tiger fan, this opinion probably upsets me. (Free speech!) However, this site is about Michigan U., so at the end of the day, it doesn't seem fair to impose Tiger-Mania on everyone who has paid to be here specifically for the Michigan Wolverines. My opinion is to keep this board focused on what it was created for, is marketed as, and everyone pays for. Again, any decision likely leaves a number of subscribers unhappy.
4/6 11:02 AM | IP: Logged
the whiners will still whine b/c that's what they do, whine.
4/6 11:02 AM | IP: Logged
....any and all posts that complain about Tigers threads. This will instantly cut down Tigers-related posts by about 25 percent, will keep patrons "in the sports bar," will encourage today's whiners to be tomorrow's Tiger thread skippers and raise the cumulative civility level.
4/6 11:01 AM | IP: Logged
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4/6 11:17 AM | IP: Logged
And, again, it's the just the "give me my way and we'll all be happy" solution.
4/6 11:20 AM | IP: Logged
threads as there are from people posting on the Tigers.

Take a cue from greenemarine and many others on this thread. Complaining about it is ridiculous.
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4/6 10:59 AM | IP: Logged
The site is in this business to make money, and Michael has been pretty clear on how the staff feels such a policy would affect business. By the same token, I do not underestimate the number of those who dislike the Detroit sports posts. A compromise seems to me the obvious solution. Game-day threads will clean up the play-by-play stuff, and Tigers threads would represent an even smaller fraction of the OT posts than they already do.
4/6 11:09 AM | IP: Logged
segregate different topics onto different boards. We have basketball, football, hockey, olympic sports, ticket exchange and premium. There's nothing "premium" about a tigers baseball game and nothing wrong with having a different board for it. But, like I said, it won't work because the people who want to talk about tigers would soon find out that the shiny new tigers board is dead...because nobody ever thinks to himself "I wonder what people thought about that last hit in the tigers game?"
4/6 11:17 AM | IP: Logged
Most people will not go there. And when the tigers fans aren't getting the right kind of circulation for their posts, they're going to post here anyway.
4/6 11:09 AM | IP: Logged
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4/6 10:57 AM | IP: Logged
Make it a rule that all Tiger related crap goes into that thread for the entire day until the next one is started.

This way all of the Tiger comments will be at least a page back for anyone who wants to comment on UofM related stuff for the rest of the afternoon/evening. And for those who want to be part of that thread - they will have to go back a page or two to get involved w/ it.
4/6 10:57 AM | IP: Logged
Wait 'til next year..........
4/6 10:54 AM | IP: Logged
that says "hey, we don't need 20 different Tigers threads during the game. Try and reply to threads already started, and we also don't need new threads bitching about Tiger's threads - just as big of an issue."

I don't know. Seems like people respond to Mods "warnings" somewhat well initially, but all hell might break loose again at some point.

I know as mods you don't want to restrict what we can post on here (other than religion/politics). I really think its up to the posters to "think before they post." Try and respect the Tigers Haters by not cluttering the board so much, and Tigers Haters: try to quit complaining about the Tigers' Fans.

wishful thinking...
4/6 10:54 AM | IP: Logged
Why was it such a big deal? There was really no M news at that time. Many things are discussed in this venue. Not everyone is going to be pleased. Again sometimes people on this board are not happy unless they are unhappy about something.
4/6 10:52 AM | IP: Logged
I get that people don't want to use the "main boards" or free boards within the Michigan Rivals site so they can stay away from trolls... so why not open the Off Topic Fort that inherits permissions from The Fort. You then ask nicely that people post all their off-topic stuff in there (Tigers, Red Wings, etc). When people don't get the clue (nature of the beast when dealing with forums) you get a little more aggressive.
4/6 10:49 AM | IP: Logged
but it doesn't bother me one bit. I just scroll right on by. It takes an extra 30 seconds to do so. I don't see why people make such a big deal of it.
4/6 10:49 AM | IP: Logged
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4/6 10:52 AM | IP: Logged
No matter how many times I hear that I still mess it that phrase up...
4/6 11:12 AM | IP: Logged
bomb other Tiger posts outside of the official thread. My issue isn't with Tigers posts per se, as I like to chat Reds from time to time (I love the analogy to a "sports bar"), but rather with the volume of individual posts dedicated to them. Clean it up, and I'm fine with it.
4/6 10:47 AM | IP: Logged
don't root for either team, so these threads drive me nuts. But I understand both why other posters and the site itself want to maintain these threads. Keeping one official thread is a nice balance. Everyone who wants to weigh in can, but the multiple threads don't clutter up the site for those, like me, who just want to discuss UMich athletics.
4/6 10:57 AM | IP: Logged
That's obviously a larger discussion, but as this forum continues to grow in numbers, it's harder and harder to maintain good discussions because they quickly move off the first page. As a consequence, we see the same topics posted repeatedly, both because people don't see old threads or because if you want to continue to have the discussion new threads need to be started. In topic view, every time somebody posts in an existing discussion that topic moves to the top of the list, which keeps the discussion alive.

For Tigers games (and the same applies to in-game threads for football and basketball games) a default of topic view will for the most part keep all posts within a single thread because of this dynamic of keeping that thread at the top of the page.
4/6 10:44 AM | IP: Logged
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4/6 10:42 AM | IP: Logged
they are not searching for the thread. Leave it for the season. Just clear it once a day.
4/6 10:58 AM | IP: Logged
Have a game thread. Then delete all the stupid "wow nice pitch", posts that are their own subjects outside of the game thread.
4/6 10:42 AM | IP: Logged
...that are not confined to the game-thread. Just by cutting down on the play-by-play stuff, those disinterested in Detroit sports will see the "clutter" significantly reduced, and appreciate, I think, the compromise that's been drawn.
4/6 10:42 AM | IP: Logged
If offenders don't get it, ban them for posting for a short period of time (1-2 days).

The guys that want to talk Tigers will go in the chat. The play by play that they give each other can be done much more efficiently in there.

A chat room should be open during the Red Wings games, Tigers games and even during the Michigan BBall and Football games.
4/6 10:41 AM | IP: Logged
I think you should just let the threads live with a general reminder to try to steer conversation towards Michigan related sports. I think Tigers threats do clutter the board a bit but at the end of the day it's not that hard to gloss over them.

I think the problem is that baseball lives for 162 days a year (or more if the Tigers make the playoffs), and we see the same memes again and again (Leyland's lineup are terrible, Inge sucks, Cabrera is fat, etc.). But short of banning discussion of everything off topic, which I wouldn't want, I don't think there is a good solution to the rampant Tigers threads. Even a game thread would clog up the board.
4/6 10:40 AM | IP: Logged
I love you don't allow politics or religion, as you shouldn't. I'm not a Tigers fan and get tired of the threads, but I don't see any reason to ban them. I agree this is kind of a sports bar and if it's sports let people talk them. It's not tough to just skip over them.
4/6 10:39 AM | IP: Logged
Give me your ideas and we'll discuss them as a staff on Monday when we all return to the office. Simple fact is, nothing outside of politics or religion is as polarizing as the Tigers threads on this board, and we simply don't allow politics or religion to be discussed.

Have always allowed the Tigers threads because we consider ourselves a sports bar and because we know a good number of our patrons are Detroiters (plus it's better business to keep those folks in your bar then to tell them to go someplace else - if you can't understand that then you've never been in a paying customers business). At the same time, we're not going to deal with the constant back and forth for the next five months until football season starts.

So throw out your best idea and we'll discuss them and come up with a solution.

Thanks
4/6 10:31 AM | IP: Logged
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